The VCAT order
Updated post with summary of decision
- Walls higher due mainly to removal of ground “batter”
- Not much change to the actual levels of walls (i.e. their true height)
- No detrimental impact to private or public realm
- Adjoining property owner withdraws objection
Thanks to the Alpine council’s planning department I have obtained a copy of the recent VCAT ruling in relation to the (unsuccessful) appeal against the wall heights of the new Woolworths supermarket in Bright. It’s a complicated read but it appears to me VCAT simply found that Woolworths had “no case to answer”.
Here is my summary of the decision:
1. The Alpine council applied for a declaration that the wall heights were not in accordance with the endorsed plans. They asked VCAT to order remedial building works to lower the north facing wall and roof of the amenities wing of the supermarket. They were joined by Save Bright members Bernece Delaney, Nick Malkin & Lee Rosser (although Rosser did not appear) and the owners of the affected property @ 12 Riverside Avenue, Mr & Mrs O’Shea.
2. Woolworths, via its development arm Fabcot, applied for VCAT to review the council’s failure to decide on Fabcot’s secondary consent request to amend the plans, made by Fabcot in November 2009 after the discrepancies in the wall heights were confirmed. The Council advised Fabcot on 25 November 2009 that it refused to consider that application, even though the law requires they must.
3. Subsequently VCAT refused to consider the council’s application for a declaration and, instead, it dealt only with the secondary consent application made by Fabcot.
20 There is little benefit in merely granting the declarations sought (by the council). It does not resolve the matters remaining in dispute. The declarations, if granted, would not require Fabcot to take any action. The Council stated it would commence enforcement action if we granted the declarations. Mr Holdsworth (on behalf of the council) asked us to order remedial building works to lower the north facing wall and roof of the amenities wing of the supermarket. We have no power to make such orders. The main application in the proceeding is the secondary consent.
21 As a result of our decision on the secondary consent application, no declarations are granted
4. According to surveyors employed by both the council and Fabcot, some of the walls were higher than the original endorsed plans, HOWEVER, this was mainly due to the walls being built on lower ground after the removal of “batter” (ground fill).
5. Overall though, there was not much change to the actual levels of the walls (i.e. their true height above sea level), apart from the mid-section of the northern (rear) wall, which potentially affected Mr & Mrs O’Shea’s amenity and which was at a level approx 1.3 metres higher than the original plans according to the “north elevation” but actually at a lower level shown in the “C-C section” of the endorsed plans.
27 The key findings are:
(a) The level of the top of the north facing wall of the amenities wing as-built is consistent with the endorsed plans section C-C but approximately 1300 mm higher than the endorsed plans north elevation.(b) The level of the top of the west facing wall of the amenities wing as built is approximately 20 mm lower than shown on the endorsed plans section B-B.
(c) The level of the top of the north facing wall (at its eastern end) as built at the rear of 12 Riverside Avenue is approximately 480 mm lower than shown on the endorsed plans section C-C.
(d) The three walls (in (a), (b) and (c) above) are up to approximately 2300 mm higher than the endorsed plans, mainly as a result of the ground level being lowered by the deletion of earth batters.
6. After Fabcot offered to landscape the strip of land between the wall and the rear of the O’Shea’s property and transfer ownership to Mr & Mrs O’Shea they withdrew their objection – meaning there was no further issue to consider on the impact on private property.
47 The north facing wall looms larger from 12 Riverside Avenue, largely because the batter is removed and the ground level is consequently lower. As well, the correct shadow diagrams show a larger part of the rear yard affected by shadow. The owners of 12 Riverside Avenue now do not oppose the Application.
48 The owners of 14 Riverside Avenue are not parties to the Application.
49 Fabcot has agreed to landscape the narrow strips of land between the north and west facing walls and the existing boundaries of 12 and 14 Riverside Avenue and transfer those strips to the adjoining owners. It is both unnecessary and undesirable that those works be included as part of the permit.
50 On private realm grounds, there is therefore no reason to refuse the Application.
7. As for the impact on the public, VCAT visited the site and determined that the minor discrepancies had no major impact from the public viewing points.
52 The top of the north facing walls are not built to a higher level than as shown on the endorsed plans section C-C. Hence, the impact cannot be said to be any different. Alternatively, we have previously found that the top of the north facing wall of the amenities wing is built to a level approximately 1300 mm higher than as shown on the endorsed plans north elevation. However, even under this alternative, the level does not have a significant impact from the specified public realm, having regard to existing street vegetation. Even if there was power to require that wall (and roof) to be modified and lowered, there is no overall benefit because the higher part of the roof behind (the rooftop plant room and condensor) would remain the same and appear more prominent.
8. As for the incorrect scaling of the adjoining Star Hotel, VCAT found that it was shown on the endorsed plans as approx 1.1 metres higher than its actual height but that this was of no consequence.
East elevation issue
55 The incorrect and higher depiction of the existing Star Hotel on the endorsed plans, and the resulting greater apparent step up to the correctly built level of the supermarket south wall parapet, is no reason to refuse to endorse the VCAT plans.56 The greater height of the wall is no reason to refuse to endorse the VCAT plans when the level of the top of that wall is built in accordance with the endorsed plans.
9. There is no doubt that the council copped a beating - as did the respondent objectors from Save Bright – and that instead of going to VCAT they perhaps should have worked to resolve the discrepancies that clearly came about through no fault of Woolworths.
Conclusion
60 The amended plans originally submitted with the Application rectify many of the errors and inconsistencies in the endorsed plans. The VCAT plans rectify more errors and inconsistencies. The Council and Fabcot continue to disagree about some important and not so important matters.
61 We have decided the best way forward is to approve the VCAT plans. We are satisfied that no significant affect on the amenity of the area will result. That will resolve the major differences concerning wall heights.
Amen.
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Did the Council have it on its website before it gave it to you? I searched for it on VCAT and it was not listed. Thought I checked yesterday on the council site but there is a link to it today. I read the ruling on your site yesterday – it seemed to be a scanned copy.
I hope the Council officers were not silly enough to give it to some people before puttingt it in the public domain. Don’t blame you for asking for it though, just think, as it is such a sensitive issue, they needed to be careful how the ruling was disseminated.
Suzie, the decision is a public document and is regarded as being in the public domain as soon as it is handed down – just like a court ruling. It’s not “sensitive”.
Btw, you’re right that the original link I provided was to a scanned copy that the council sent me in response to my suggestion that it should be on their website. I didn’t actually ask for it. There’s nothing wrong with that though.
At last it is over. The best looking streetscape in Bright!!! Is the IGA repaint a reaction to the imminent arrival of competition.
More seriously – will Council ever tell us how much of our money they have spent on this abortive pissing contest with Woolies. Pity there’s not an election soon – that might flush out a few answers and the goat might become Mayor.
Percy, the bit that bothers me is this:
…. (the council) asked VCAT to order remedial building works to lower the north facing wall and roof of the amenities wing of the supermarket. They were joined by Save Bright members Bernece Delaney, Nick Malkin & Lee Rosser (although Rosser did not appear) ….
So what the council and the retrogrades wanted was to effectively prevent the supermarket from being finished on time and to delay its opening by how long? I reckon those sort of changes would have thrown the whole thing into chaos. Maybe that’s what they wanted. Well, obviously they did. What sort of attitude is that?
(PS: I don’t blame the O’Shea’s for objecting, as they had a genuine grievance. To their credit they settled the matter with Woolies and withdrew.)
So how did you get a copy of the decision before it went up on the website Dixon, and why? What makes you so important?
Hi JC, I think I know who you are and, as usual, you’re just o-so-polite. Anyway, to satisfy your curiosity, here is a copy of the correspondence:
From: Grevillea Gardens [mailto:grevilleagardens@bigpond.com]
Sent: Friday, 26 March 2010 2:30 PM
To: ‘info@alpineshire.vic.gov.au’
Subject: VCAT decision on Woolworths wall heights
I think it would be a good idea if council put the decision up on the council website. I presume you have a copy of it.
The community is certainly entitled to read VCAT’s full finding but unfortunately VCAT have not yet put the decision up @ the austlegal website. They usually take about a month or so to do that and even then most community members would probably not know where to find it.
Considering the controversy (and cost) this has caused I believe it is incumbent of the council to put the full transcript on its website immediately.
Regards,
Ray Dixon
Bright
To which I received this response:
From: Heather Green [mailto:heatherg@alpineshire.vic.gov.au]
Sent: Monday, 29 March 2010 9:05 AM
To: Grevillea Gardens
Subject: VCAT Order – Woolworths
Ray
I am arranging for the VCAT decision on the Woolworths case to be put on Councils website. In the meantime please find a copy attached.
Regards
Heather Green
Manager Planning and Environment Department
Alpine Shire Council
Does that satisfy you? As to “why” they sent it to me … well it’s a friggin’ public document!
Ray,
You can’t be much more transparent than this. I still think the Council officers should have put ithe full decision up on the Council website first though – it would only mean scanning the document as you did if they didn’t already have it in PDF format and then directing you to the website the next day.
Yes, it should have gone up straight away, Suzie. And I have to wonder if it ever would have had I not asked them to do it. After all, it wasn’t too flattering for the council.
That proves nothing Dixon, you could have faked thit and you probably did, I don’t believe the council sent you any thing.
Oh, FFS, I don’t have to prove anything to you but here’s a screen shot of Ms Green’s email message: HERE
Satisfied now? It beats me why you would even think I’d bother lying about how I got a copy of the decision. Are you so completely stupid that you don’t realise VCAT decisions are public property? Sheez!
Just Curious, I believe, has as many brain cells as a snail…….
………..and an IQ the same as his hat size?
This is not even poor humour, it is juvenile, “you’re a smelly bum” stuff that we revelled in in primary school. It is that bad it is intentional to wind people up.
They’re stuffed and if they were half interested or appalled they would mount a rational argument.
The email from Hether Green is just another clever Dixon fake. If she sent you an early copy at 9.05 am on Monday why is your link to the same file that is now on the council’s website?
Because I changed the link after the council put it up on their website. Here is the original link, which was the scanned copy I received from Ms Green @ 9.05 am:
http://alpineopinion.files.wordpress.com/2010/03/vcatwoolies.pdf
I think your accusations about how I came to get a copy of the decision are just a smoke screen for someone who has nothing to say about the decision itself.
Ray,
I wouldn’t respond to any more posts on this as it is getting tiresome. Had Council put it up on it’s website on 18th March when it first appears to have been received, and not waited until 29th March then all this nonsense could have been avoided. This is a hard lesson Heather needs to learn in her dealings in the Alpine Shire.
You can bet it would have gone up straight away if they’d won, Suzie.
any news on brights caltex going to a woolworths one
I have not heard anything of the sort, but if it happens it happens. It might mean cheaper petrol.
There was talk about this some time ago, but I haven’t heard any confirmation.
Whether it happens or not, Bright residents will still save heaps on petrol by shopping @ Woolies (instead of driving to Coles @ Myrtleford every week like we do).